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Google proved Apple accidentally forgot to test for even basic security/privacy in iOS 10 to 12 for over two years

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Arlen G. Holder

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Sep 8, 2019, 11:27:38 AM9/8/19
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Hi Alan Baker,

Notice the factually logical adult assessment below that:
o *Apple phones are _more risky_ than Android phones*

It's interesting that you apologists have no adult response to facts.
a. Adults comprehend facts
b. Adults form logical assessments

As an adult, I posted facts:
1. I posted a subject of temporal & on-topic significance
2. I backed up that post with numerous timely & factual cites
3. I responded to every on-topic objection - with _more_ on-topic facts.

The fact is Apple is angry at Google for exposing their imaginary security.
o Apple angry at Google for bursting iPhone security myth bubble
<https://cnnews9.com/2019/09/08/apple-angry-at-google-for-bursting-iphone-security-myth-bubble-mspoweruser/>
"Apple's statement shows little recognition of the fact that the only
reason more iPhones were not infected were not because iPhone security was
superior, but simply that the attack itself was relatively targetted."

"It has been pretty clear, from government-sponsored attacks, that
iPhones are as vulnerable as any other smartphone, and that they may
actually be more risky, due to giving users the impression that the
handsets are safer than they actually are, and by making it more difficult
to detect infections, as malware-scanning software is impossible to
install."

"While Apple appears to be attacking Google's Project Zero team, their
post contains no apology for the vulnerability to end-users, including the
vulnerable population in China.

"Google was however clear that iPhones were vulnerable because Apple was
negligent, saying:
'The root causes I highlight here are not novel and are often
overlooked: we'll see cases of code which seems to have never worked, code
that likely skipped QA or likely had little testing or review before being
shipped to users.'"

"While Apple claims they will "never stop our tireless work to keep our
users safe", it seems more likely the company will never stop defending
their ill-deserved (as reality repeatedly demonstrates) reputation for
safety and privacy."

nospam

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Sep 8, 2019, 11:36:23 AM9/8/19
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In article <ql36l9$3t4$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen G. Holder
<arlen.g...@arlenholder.net> wrote:

> As an child, I made up facts:

ftfy

Arlen Holder

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May 10, 2020, 5:20:54 PM5/10/20
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In response to what nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote :

>> is this fixed yet?
>
> yes

It's shocking how little apologists care of their credibility.
o It's why I assess that none of them can possibly be well educated.

They're all fantastically incapable of assessing even simple facts...
o Which, after all, is what makes them apologists.

Likely, it's why they gravitate to extremely highly marketed product.
o They're desperate to _believe_ what MARKETING is glad to feed them.

And yet, the facts remain...

FACT:
"*This 0-day vulnerability affects the latest iOS version 13.4.1*"
FACT:
"*This enables applications to have unlimited privileges*"
FACT:
"*the bug will be eliminated with the upcoming iOS 13.5 update*"

FACT:
Current version 13.4.1, build 17E262 (17E8258 for the 2nd-gen SE)
o Beta version 13.5 Beta 4, build 17F5065a

ASSESSMENT:
o Most likely, this is fixed in the beta, but not the current release.

REFERENCE:
o IPHONE: A ZERO-DAY VULNERABILITY ALLOWS SPYING ON YOUR PERSONAL DATA
<https://www.gizchina.com/2020/05/06/iphone-a-zero-day-vulnerability-allows-spying-on-your-personal-data/>
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The apologists are unlike normal adults when it comes to actual facts.
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